New Horizons: A Metaverse Podcast Experience at the Killer Bee Studios

Navigating the Creative Mind of Sherri Lynn: A Journey of Storytelling, Rejection, and Unwavering Passion

Sherri Lynn Season 3 Episode 9

Text Brian & Shawna (Fan Mail)

Have you ever wondered what goes on in the mind creative of Sherri Lynn, A.K.A. Producer Sherri? Join us as we enter the world of Sherri, the producer of the Brant Hansen Show, podcast host, and a true creative powerhouse. In this fascinating conversation, Sherri passionately discusses her love for creation and how she believes it brings us closer to the nature of God. As we navigate her creative journey, we dive into the positive impact of her works on both the creator and the audience.

As a lover of theater and storytelling, Sherri Lynn opens up about her deep appreciation for creators like Shonda Rhimes and Aaron Sorkin, whose narratives leave a lasting impression. We indulge in a lively discussion about shows like Ted Lasso and Entourage, exploring how they uniquely portray friendship and human dynamics. Moreover, Sherri reveals how characters can become a vital part of our lives and how revisiting familiar stories can be comforting during stressful times.

Continuing our conversation, we venture into the often daunting topic of rejection and the pursuit of creative passions. Sherri recounts her experiences of self-publishing a book that was initially rejected by Christian publishers. Her story is a testament to unwavering faith and determination.

Unravel the enigmatic world of creativity with us and Sherri Lynn in this podcast replay, recorded live the the Metaverse.

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Speaker 1:

But welcome to today's podcast replay from the Killer B Studios. Let's go ahead and dive on in.

Speaker 2:

Hello friends my name is Rick Partey and I want to welcome you to the Killer B Studios. Get ready to experience all the buzz of Killer B and don't forget to like the world. Grab a seat, invite your friends and let's throw some confetti In three, two, one.

Speaker 1:

Hey everybody, hey guys, how are you guys all doing tonight? This is awesome. Look at everybody. I see Metacodes, deener, firemaster, swordcat, ttv, luke the Goat, sils, hidden Blaze, lady Hawk, kuwalt and Good Soldier oh my gosh, thank you for joining us tonight at the Killer B Studios. Our guest tonight. Her name is Sherri Lynn Now Sherri. If any of you guys know the Brand Hansen show, she's also known as producer Sherri.

Speaker 1:

Also, if you guys, how many of you guys listen to podcasts? There's some confetti. If you guys listen to podcasts, oh yeah, anybody. Okay, okay, we got a few people here. Okay, there we go. Metacod is throwing confetti too, okay, so you guys need to check out Now. Listen to what I'm saying, listen to how I say it, because it's going to be tricky. You want to do a search for the Brand and Sherri Oddcast. You'll find out, probably later at some point. If you listen to podcasts, you're going to find out. It is a podcast. So, even though it's an oddcast, it is a podcast, but it is an amazing podcast. So you guys should definitely check it out. Are you ready? Are you ready to bring out our guest now?

Speaker 3:

I am so ready.

Speaker 1:

So ready. Okay, so you guys. So Sherri, she's like the meta age of. I mean, she's been on here, I think, for like right about 30 minutes. Right now it might take her 20 minutes to walk out here.

Speaker 3:

Well, she's going to be doing better than I did on my first show.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, mrs Killer B was crazy. This is also the fun part, she. You know, you never know what's going to happen when you bring somebody new out here, but we love giving them the experience, so of course, one of those experiences is the confetti, right? So as we welcome her out, you guys please let's rain her with confetti, let's hit the guest music, please, arcane, and let's bring out our guest. Please, welcome to the stage, sherri Lynn. Everybody, let's throw some confetti and welcome out Sherri. Sherri, come on out, here she comes. Here she comes.

Speaker 4:

Everybody. Just hold on one second, I am so here All right now here's the couch. You did it, am I looking?

Speaker 1:

at everybody. Yeah, that's it. You got it. You got it, sherri oh gosh this is really something Hi, all right hey.

Speaker 4:

Y'all that confetti is for you, Sherri. Oh, that's nice. That's a ooh. We don't do that in the actual world because someone has to clean that up.

Speaker 2:

So this is nice, it's nice that we have to do it like this Okay so, I am right now.

Speaker 4:

I'm on the couch.

Speaker 1:

You are on the couch. You are on the couch, yep, you're there.

Speaker 6:

Did.

Speaker 1:

I just wave, you just wave at everybody. All right, that's the show. You guys have a great night. No, I'm joking.

Speaker 5:

Okay, Whoa my goodness All right. Well, thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 4:

I appreciate it. It's our pleasure.

Speaker 1:

We love to give the opportunity for people to come and to see what's happening in the metaverse and how this allows us to connect with people. So we're so glad you're here, so glad to be here, sherri.

Speaker 4:

All right, glad to be here. So hold on. So I'd just be like that yeah, there you go, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Or you could throw. You know, we haven't taught Sherri how to throw confetti. If you take, now hold on your controllers, If you take both your controllers and just kind of do like you're doing like a rainbow, it'll throw confetti.

Speaker 4:

Do I hold the things down?

Speaker 1:

The two you don't have to put anything.

Speaker 4:

There you go, you did it.

Speaker 1:

You guys see that yeah. All right, that's for all of you. So I'm going to go ahead and give you a little bit of a quick overview, to just take about 30 seconds and tell her by a little bit about who you are.

Speaker 4:

Who is Sherri Lynn? Who is Sherri Lynn? I always start with. I am a daughter, I am a sister, I am a niece, I'm an auntie. I love all of those things and so grateful I love the Lord and I get to do the thing that I always wanted to do, which is make things. I love the way that I am and the fact that I can do that for a living always blows my mind. I'm grateful every single day, every single day.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome. That's awesome. I know when I talk to you, sherri, about coming on, I said, you know, whatever topic that really fits with what you're going through today, it's something that you would really enjoy talking about, and you told me that you would like to talk about. I know you got some things going on. You'll probably share some of that. You said you would like to talk about the process of creativity, so I would like to ask you why the topic of creativity?

Speaker 4:

Because it's always something that is in front of mind for me, because I'm always either making something or thinking about making something, and I am obsessed with documentaries. I think that the process of doing something far outweighs the product many times. So we'll see the product of whatever it is, but what in the world did you go through to make that? And I just love that idea and anytime I can study it or talk to people about it, it's just. I think the process of making something is, as it gets us very close to the nature of God, right.

Speaker 2:

Because he is our creator.

Speaker 4:

He is the creator, and so the fact that he gives us the opportunity to participate in something like that is wonderful to me. My favorite thing about theater, one of my favorite things I many things favorite things about theater, but one of my favorite things is is that the fact that that is an empty stage there's nothing and no one on it and I Always take a moment, no matter how hectic the day is the show. I take a moment and think about the fact that I made something up, and because I made something up, there's gonna be union people here. There's gonna be people running all over the place. You're gonna make up one and be changing costumes Just because you made something up, and I think that you know.

Speaker 4:

I've seen some of my favorite creators, like Shonda Rhimes is one of my all-time favorites. Yeah, erin sorkin people like that, who who writes so beautifully but so funny. If you know, I hate so-and-so on Grey's Anatomy, or I get hate when scandal was on. I hate Olivia. I've already won. You know what I mean because you're you are literally talking about something I made up.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, it's agitating, you and I really just sat somewhere and thought that, and so if you think you're hurting my feelings, it's telling me you didn't like the plot of one of these episodes. Yeah, I made it up and you talk time that you'll never be, able to get back and watched it. And that's that blows my mind. So.

Speaker 3:

I've thought about that a lot of times because, like, on the flip side of the coin, there's so many characters that someone has written that I love so deeply, that I feel, like they're a part of my life. You know, anne of Green Gables is one of them, and I'm listening to the audiobook version of and of Green Gables and I'm just reminded every time I listen to it, like someone thought of this character that I now think of as a friend, and it's, it's wild?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I do want to. I ask God for that because I have Characters like that too that I love and and that shows that I love that bring me comfort. And I watch over and over again. I don't know if any of you do that. Oh yeah, watch the same thing over and over again because, like the stress sometimes I heard someone talk about that the stress of watching, watching something new You're already have anxiety over a day or whatever, and now all of a sudden you're like I don't know, because I don't know what's coming right.

Speaker 4:

Yeah but a series that you've watched, that you love, and you love those people. That's always how I want to be able to write. Yeah, yeah what is one?

Speaker 3:

of those series that you go back to over and over.

Speaker 4:

Oh, this is touchy and scary, because then everyone says you watch what like? It's almost like if you don't watch Sesame Street and you're going to hell.

Speaker 3:

I feel better about this. One of my go-tos is Ted lasso.

Speaker 4:

Okay, yeah, ted lasso is pretty safe, though, like I mean, he's a happy, happy, lucky guy. I'm shorter stuff. I didn't, I couldn't get into that. I watched the first episode and I couldn't quite understand what I was supposed to be. Feel it again. Okay, okay, try it again.

Speaker 3:

At least watch the first season to like really get the taste of it. Yeah, okay, it's so much deeper than just like it is at first. It's like goofy, like you know, like no one acts like that, but keep watching, you're gonna be pleasantly surprised, I think all right, I have to try that.

Speaker 4:

Okay, so One of my absolute favorites. It's like a comfy blanket to me all the time. I've never said this publicly before. So here I am and in this studio metaverse pouring out my heart. And it is not a show that is about Christians, nor was it written for Christians. So let me be very clear and if you, if you're, if you're evangelical, panties twist easy. This is not the show that you want to watch. But entourage is a.

Speaker 1:

Are you serious nom?

Speaker 4:

just joking, I've never you've got to be kidding me, oh my gosh Sherry.

Speaker 4:

You and brand I, I the show. The reason why I love the show so much is because it it's so much like my life in as much that friendship, those guys that the whole show is about friendship. So whatever they go through, whatever they do, what do you know All the you know stuff that they do go through? Whatever they are best friends and no Relationship that any of them have ever supersedes that kinship they have with each other and I have friendships like that and it just yeah, it it's. That's the show that I think, because it's about entertainment too and I love that.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and it just every, every aspect of it works for me and so I have had that show with me through very tough times. The Vinnie and Turtle and drama and in E and Ari, all of those characters are like, those are my boys and so yeah.

Speaker 4:

So if you watch and you're like, holy man, this is the most defiled, awful Boxery I've ever seen in my life, I get it, but there's something about the friendship of it all. I'm a sucker for friendship. If any show does that. I love friends. Yeah, I love Seinfeld, the Another one that you you know what I'll defend. This one, though dead to me, I will defend, and the reason why, I the reason.

Speaker 4:

Dead to me. I have her anger and her you know language, and all of that is because she's an angry Woman. She is an angry, hostile woman and I just think anything that lets women be something other than an object to stare at or a I don't mean any harm, guys.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 4:

Woman. That is something other than it, clearly a part of a man's imagination that they brought to us on the screen. Yeah, a three-dimensional woman who has emotions and is not afraid to show them is very it's very compelling and so dead. To me was a good one, because their friendship Was so deep and I just love anything about friendship because that those are type relationships I have.

Speaker 3:

I loved Dead to me because I was like I want to be as patient with my friends as Judy is. Yeah, and no matter what. Yeah. Now I can't remember what Christina Applegate's character was named Jen, jen, okay, yes, nothing that Jen threw at Judy made her stop loving her and.

Speaker 2:

I was like.

Speaker 3:

That is what I want to be like, and I mean, it's hilarious to and dark and it is. I mean, the writing was just fascinating. But yeah, I love dead, to me too and the chemistry.

Speaker 4:

Anytime you have chemistry and you have friendship like that, I mean the Jen, there's this part, there's a part I'm not, it's not too much of a spoiler alert they kind of friendship kind of fizzles out, and then something happens and Jen picks up and says hey, I need you to come home. She calls Judy and says I need you to come home. And that is one of my favorite lines is because they had fallen out she had put her out.

Speaker 4:

It was all terrible and a minute that something horrible happened. That was the first person she called and again, I have those kind of friendships and so anything that shows that and I also write that. So the musical that I wrote that was about a black pastor and a white pastor, you know, combining their churches. It was about friendship. It was about those two guys and I knew that in our current culture of race People would naturally pick sides and then people always want to try to find you're not gonna find it with me, by the way, you'll think you do, but you won't people want to find out what political sides are on, so they can either love you or hate you. And they were trying to find that in the musical and I just wouldn't let it be because it wasn't about anything other than these friends and they're love for each other and they're love for Christ.

Speaker 1:

So, that's awesome. So the, the, the musical, is that available? Can people people watch?

Speaker 4:

we are working on making it available. I mean it was. It was live streamed, which was you know? Talk about the process of creativity, guys, holy man to. I took some comfort in the fact that Netflix tried to live stream what was it? Love it first sight, something like that, some kind of reality show. They were trying to live stream the finale of it and everything crashed and they couldn't do it and people were upset and people were and I to my team, I was like guys, we must have really pulled something off.

Speaker 2:

Because we ours actually work like we.

Speaker 4:

I remember telling the guy when he did live stream he would do a finished product. So we already filmed this. Now we're gonna live stream it. He had never, done a live show, live streamed At the moment, where everyone's gonna be watching, meaning if something falls apart, yeah, everybody will see that. You know, if it stopped streaming and all of these thousands of people have paid to see it Like it had the potential of disaster written.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, so you did our actual real live live stream, so it's the live show.

Speaker 4:

Live stream, yes, and it was. Putting that together Was the hardest thing that I have ever done. And again, the process of creativity is not just Making something. I, you know, I can write, I can act, I can do all of those things. If someone asked me what my talent like actual talent is, my actual talent is finding people who are good at their thing, convincing them that they can help me with my thing and then letting them just go do that right. Micromanaging, not you know what did you have a chance to get it like? Really Showing people a vision and getting them sold on that vision and then us as a team going to make that happen. That's in my truest essence.

Speaker 4:

I am a producer and a director.

Speaker 1:

I love that, so that's a good question to. I would like to ask you, sherry, is when it comes to like the definition of creativity To you, what would that definition be like? Is it a skill, a mindset or something else Like what would you define creativity as?

Speaker 4:

Well, I think all of us are creators in some way. It's just, are you driven by that Right like every if you, if you make a avocado toast, I will tell you I can't do that. I can make nothing.

Speaker 4:

So if you did that, you made that, it was, there was nothing and you made something Right. So I think everyone can do that in some way. But or if you're driven by it, that need to make something, to create something too. That's why, when people are like you know, it's not now in this kind of celebrity driven world a lot of times young people are asking me how do I become a celebrity? Well, get on it, get on the internet and do something stupid. Everyone will see it.

Speaker 6:

It's actually not that hard.

Speaker 1:

I.

Speaker 4:

Yes, and everyone will see it right. But if you're asking me how to make your thing, I always tell people I never wait for permission to do it now.

Speaker 4:

To be sure. That a lot of times means you'll be spending your own money to make it sure Because you know some like for my book and that no Christian publisher Wanted to. They wanted to publish a book from me. Of course you would. I have a platform, right. That's. It comes on the money right and exposure. But a book called I want to punch you in the face, but I love Jesus, a PMS companion book, is not quite what Christians are looking for.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4:

I appreciate that, I do I. But I wanted that, that's what I wanted to say. And so they were like how about right this? How about right that? How about right this? No, I'm not good. So if I was driven by money, if I was driven by, driven by a celebrity, then sure, now I can, I'll write whatever you tell me to write. But I knew what I would just say, I knew what I felt like God was giving me, and so I don't ask you for permission. May I please publish it? You know, if you say no to me, then I'll find a way to publish it, and I did and and then I trust God with the rest of the process.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I love that. That reminds me to I think it was Elma show we had in here Once and we were talking about that and she said the word no just doesn't. That doesn't mean don't take it as rejection, it just means not here the distance, the right person, so go around that and find the, you know. Don't let no be your stopping point if that's something you really want to do.

Speaker 4:

It just means not here, yeah, not the right person and let me say this, it can also mean not now, and so I have learned not to be Driven in a way that I'm unwise, right? So if I want to do something, want to make something In my younger years, I would just do it because they'd be like no one can do that, and I do it to spite you, right?

Speaker 4:

I'll show you that I can make that, that I can do that. And then there's a reason why everybody was like no, because that don't work right now, and so you've just made a fool of yourself. So even then, I learned something from it. Right, but there is some wisdom if you have wise people around you or like yes to that, but not now. There is something to listening to that. So I don't I don't want to make it like I'm just a maverick.

Speaker 4:

And just jumping off buildings, you know, with you know pens and papers and writing stuff. There are times where it's like yes to that, but not now. And then there's other times. For Gosh, I think it was Dave Chappelle who said Like a, an idea is I can't remember how he said it, but basically it's sort of like a car to self-driving, like you just get it and it's gonna take you somewhere. It's an idea that just takes you and you can't you can't stop it right, it's just carrying you.

Speaker 1:

So oh yeah that's good, yeah, and I think that I love that too, because you know there's a lot of people here that I know you guys are in the metaverse, you guys are, you guys have cool things that you guys are doing, and I know that sometimes you can take some heat from the outside world Because they're not in here, they don't, they don't know, they haven't experienced it. There's a lot of people's got a lot of thoughts and theories but they haven't been in here and experienced it and Seen the connections. And and I want to encourage you guys, keep doing what you're doing. You do it because you love doing it. I mean everybody that I've met in here that's building something or you know they're doing a show. They're doing it because they love it and it's we talked about this last week Like, make sure you have your purpose, like what is your purpose, like what you know what we do here at the studio. We have a purpose statement for what we do and if, if two people show up, that's if one person shows up, that's success for us, because Someone is hearing a story and we're we're building connections or relationships and that's what the studio is about. So I want to encourage you guys.

Speaker 1:

You know you might hear people Push you, push away or say this is just a game. You guys know there's a lot of stuff that's getting ready to change and Do keep doing what you do because you love doing it. But no, also there's gonna be a process through that. I mean, we know there's a lot of bugs that we deal with in here, because this beta stuff everybody's learning and we have to Kind of flow with it. That's kind of the process when you're, when you're going out Doing something that nobody else has done and you you feel like you're alone. But here's the great thing you guys are connecting with people all over here and in horizons. You're not doing it alone. You don't have to. There's a lot of amazing people in here that want to help you out. So I don't know about you, sherry, but I've. You know I'm a creative. You know I got some. I do some creative stuff too, and but I sometimes can take things personal when when somebody kind of doesn't like the creativity. Have you ever struggled with that before?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I think when I was younger I obviously no one likes to be disliked and you put, you know, your blood on a page and someone laughs at it or doesn't like it. That is that's disheartening, sure. But I think that if you're really, if I'm really sold on it right, I think when it hurts me is when I wasn't quite sold on it to begin with and I still went and did it, or still you know what I mean. Like, if you're doing comedy and you get up and you do it and you're like that's it, it doesn't quite work, but I'm going to try to push it through, and then it bombs, then that hurts a little more because inside you knew that wasn't fully formed. Like I think that's what happens to me when I'm on stage or trying to do a joke. It's not there yet, it's not there for you to put it out there, but I'm like let's rush it out.

Speaker 6:

Let's roll with it, yeah, and when it gets a big goose egg.

Speaker 4:

then you're like, yeah, that hurts, and so I won't say that it doesn't. But you know, even in radio, you know you are giving something. It's mass media. Yeah, you're giving something to the masses. So, as I tell my mom all the time, she you know my family gets a little touchy if they see someone say something about me online or something like that, because they're my family, Right. But I always say as long as there's more laughs than booze, we've paid the mortgage today.

Speaker 6:

Oh, I love that.

Speaker 1:

I love that. That's great.

Speaker 4:

So you know, I can't I. How dare I go to God and say, yes, let me be able to do all these creative things, please? And, by the way, everyone should love me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that doesn't. That doesn't make any sense. Thank you, yeah.

Speaker 4:

I love it and sometimes it hurts and you just shake it off and keep making stuff.

Speaker 1:

You know one of the things I tell Mrs Killer B, because I always tell I tell a lot of jokes but they say I kind of overdo it because a lot of them they say are bad jokes. But I always look like if I just keep pushing them out there, somebody's going to laugh at one and I'm like there, it was right there. There it is, I'll take it. It took me 20 to get there, but I got a good one.

Speaker 4:

There are times that I've gone on stage and they haven't laughed and I'm like you know what, I don't care, because that was funny, and so you guys didn't get it. I still stand by that joke. So, yeah, there are times where I'm like nope, that was funny, you guys just didn't get it.

Speaker 3:

He is not paying the mortgage with his dad jokes.

Speaker 1:

Now wait a minute. Why are you laughing at that? That wasn't supposed to be a joke. No, that was pretty funny Maybe she's telling you the one telling the jokes, yeah.

Speaker 3:

That's just some real life painful humor right there.

Speaker 1:

That's why the laughs seem kind of forced. The jokes flow naturally, but the laughter seems forced on my mind.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's something to really consider.

Speaker 1:

I should pay attention to that. I should pay attention to that. Just think about it. Think about it.

Speaker 3:

I just know how to read the room yet, yeah, it's great.

Speaker 1:

Right now. I think it's a great time to do a contest. Let me give you guys a heads up. After we do the contest, we're going to bring up the mic for if anybody has a question or thought that you guys would like to ask Sherry, you guys will be able to jump down here in the mic box here. But let me give you guys a heads up. The way the contest works is we're going to pull a random name. It'll appear right above the big B up here. Whoever's name comes up here gets to jump up on the stage and grab the honey stick. And then you guys get a whack the B. Where's the honey stick? It's actually right up here. See the big B. See the big B up here.

Speaker 4:

Oh, okay, where's the honey stick?

Speaker 1:

The honey stick is right here. It's the whack of B stick right there. In the case, I see Okay, yeah, so, okay. So whoever is the winner gets 50 more points. Make sure you check out your high-fativity ranking. You get points for every minute you're in here during their shows. What that does is the people. Every six months, twice a year, we actually give away a headset that's autographed by our guests Right now, the headset that Sherry has on. She's going to autograph the headset and then we'll give two of those away, one every six months. The top five people will be in a random drawing and we'll do a big night for giving that headset away. We just gave one away, I think it was like a month ago.

Speaker 1:

So, with that Arcane, can you go ahead and cue the contest? Skyler, let's hit that music. Bring up, skyler, come on up. Skyler. Yeah, welcome to the Killery's Tears man. Yeah, it's great seeing you. Oh, I love the glasses too.

Speaker 1:

All right, go ahead and grab that whack of B stick, all right. So, skyler, I want you to. Actually, that's not the B, that's a good stretch, though. You come on up front here. So come right here. I had to stand up for that one, yeah, no, so stand right here and I want you to watch our show. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So stand right here and I want you to watch right here. He's going to bring up the B gong. All right, go ahead and bring that gong up. All right, there you go. Whack that B. That's a lot easier, right? All right, there you go. All right, skyler. Thanks man. You can just throw that. There you go. Thanks for joining us, man. Thank you, all right, 50 points for Skyler Arcane. Can you go ahead and bring up the Q&A mic? I was about to be blinding you guys. Did you ever think you would see a gong come out of the floor?

Speaker 6:

I've never thought that I'd see anything like this Like I'm still, I'm still, I'm still, I'm still.

Speaker 4:

I'm still in space invaders and asteroids on the on the tarry. That's what I'm saying. You're too young to even know what that means yes. You should be glad to know that for a long time.

Speaker 3:

Mr Killer B was calling that theB bong because he could not get that word right. So be glad you missed that big yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to say yeah, that's not the, that laughter didn't come forced, though, when I said it, so I'm going to be glad that laughter didn't come forced, though, when I said it. So if anybody has a, if anybody has a Q, if everybody has a question or a thought, just jump on down here by the mic and we'll go ahead and let you guys share your thought or question. Brittany, thanks for joining us, hey.

Speaker 5:

Hi, it's great to see you. Yeah, I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for the invite.

Speaker 4:

Hi Sherry, how are you? Hi Am I waving?

Speaker 1:

Yep, you're waving Yep, All right, so I read that you and I'm sorry I came in.

Speaker 5:

You may have already spoken about this. I came in a little later. I read that you are a former youth pastor. Yes, and so what? I want to know what your opinion is right now about what we're seeing in the media about the youth, like what's going on with the youth. You know as far as the direction that you feel like the youth is going and what can you do, or what can we do, to encourage the youth to do better or to stay focused?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's a great question. Great question how do I feel, gosh man, I think that, honestly, and this is something that I've been thinking about. So that's why the question is so interesting, because when I was a youth minister, the people that I was and I'm dating myself now but the people that I was ministering to are now adults, like in their late 20s and some early 30s, right and so, and it's all come full circle because you get out, you start in church if people start, if kids started in church, and it all seems kind of lame, kind of who knows, and you go to college and you get all these questions like how do you know and what are you? And then you start to get out in the culture and see there's no real answer out there.

Speaker 4:

And then it's like it starts to come full circle back, so that people always ask me do I have children? I did not birth children, and I always say my phone and my cash app says that I do. So they will call, and I think that something that Brant does Brittany that is is is so. It is so profound and if we have the courage to do it, everyone is deconstructing Christianity, right? Well, who's now this and now that? Now that it's great, I understand. I've had my own deconstruction process for myself.

Speaker 4:

I would invite young people to tell me how it's working. Like this is what the culture says is right. This is what they say is good. This is what's it. Look at where we're at. You need the statistics that say that this is working, that people have joy, that people have peace, that people have a stable mind, stable lives. If, can you tell me that Because that's the thing is that we never question culture, and I think that's something that Brant does so well is to say here are the cultural things, for instance, this will be you guys probably never invite me back in here, and if you did, I wouldn't know how to get around anyway, but Do you have the bands already?

Speaker 1:

Do you have the bands already? The?

Speaker 4:

concept of personal truth. Okay, that's something that youth, that's a cultural thing. That's my truth, that's my truth. Okay, so fine. But the thing is, is that, how can that continue to work? If I have a truth and you have a truth, what we will get to which is where I believe we are now, and I think young people would say this if you said that to them we'll get to a point where we can have no common sense, because the only common sense we would have is if we had a common truth. But without a common truth, if you have a truth and I have a truth we can never have anything in common. It would, by definition, have a separated, and that's what we see right, interesting, yeah, and there's no one can gosh, you can't even say anything, and people are like what do you mean by that? Like there's no commonality and there's no community. And I think it's because I am demanding that everyone see everything the way I see it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

You see what I'm saying. So I think a deconstruction of culture, first saying what are the cultural ideas, and then taking them one by one and say let's go through here and let's see if this works or not.

Speaker 6:

Well, that's interesting.

Speaker 4:

It'll take some time, It'll take some energy, but I think that that and the actual understanding of the gospel Calvary I say it all the time because I think it gets lost in Christianity. People are deconstructing Christianity, tearing Christianity apart. We never go to the cross. Was that real or was it not? What was it for? What did it buy? What did it Like? All that? I think that deconstructing culture, really building up the gospel and then let people choose because Jesus did, that's good yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's good, you know it's interesting. You guys were talking about this too, because I've been reading a book and I've been reading segments of it too, Mrs Killer Bee, and it's called what Are we Chasing, and it has a lot to do with. It talks a lot about what culture puts out, what we should be doing and how, if you don't do what culture is pushing and saying you need to do, it's like well, then you're kind of looked down upon Like something's wrong with you, Right, or you're being lazy or anything like that. But it's really showing and explaining the importance of culture. Just because it's what culture is doing doesn't mean that it's right or that it's best for you and it's okay for you to step back. Yeah, Today I read a part where it actually was sharing a story of instead of imagining you're standing in a right next to a big oak tree and what do you see when you're right next to that oak tree, what you see is you basically are going to see the bark of that tree, but take 10 steps back.

Speaker 6:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Now, what do you see? Maybe you see the branches and the tree. Take 10 more steps back. Now you're starting to see there's other trees. Take 10 more steps back. Now you're seeing the sky. You're seeing the whole forest.

Speaker 1:

And he was talking about like that's what we need to be thinking about with. We're so focused on what culture is telling us, but we need to slow down and start stepping back. And slowing down is not a word that's popular in culture at all, and especially if you're in the creative field too, you could be running. I mean, well, I know I've done it several times. I'm sure anybody here would probably say like, how many of you would say like you're like running like 100 miles per hour, a lot, and there's going to be seasons for that. But if you're doing it constantly, all the time and that's where I was I was like I literally thought I'm not a book reader.

Speaker 1:

It takes me some time to read a book. But I was literally sitting there. I was like I don't know what. I want to read something, but I don't know what, and I just did a search for well, what am I chasing? And there it was, and it has been an amazing book so far. So definitely should check it out. If anybody here, just let me know. I'll send you a link to it if you're interested in learning more about it. But that was really good. I thank you, sherry. Thank you for sharing that. Does anybody else have a question or thought? Feel free to jump in the mic. Good soldier, you're muted. Just let you know. Good soldier, you're muted. Thank you, brittany. Hey, good soldier.

Speaker 6:

Okay, here's my question your faith. Do you find that it doesn't interface well with your job and other creative people that are around you, or do you find it's like more of a stumbling block? Or perhaps you're like a White House, where it attracts attention and gives people guidance?

Speaker 4:

Ah, that's a great question, thank you. For me, my faith is a part of me. As I wouldn't be able to wake up and be like I've decided I'm not going to be black today. I can't do that. My faith is just that much a part of me how it intersects with what I do, because I can't give it up and I won't, and it is my voice.

Speaker 4:

You see what I'm saying, like a lot of people would say I talk kind of churchy sometimes and I do it like so. It's like well, how do you put these words into language everyone understands? Well, this is my voice, this is my faith, this is who I am and it has taken me some time to be comfortable with the fact. That's who I am and whether that is popular to culture or not popular to culture, it actually is who I am and my faith will come out in all the things that I do. Where it could be weird, if I'm honest, is not on the secular side, but on the Christian side, so on the church side of what people expect you to make, what they expect you to say, how they for instance.

Speaker 4:

I'm working on a new book, that's. I haven't told anybody to see this. Here you go, guys.

Speaker 1:

It's killer B exclusive yeah.

Speaker 4:

It's based on my mother's saying. She lives with me. She's probably wondering what in the world I'm doing. I'm just sitting in a chair, talking to no one.

Speaker 1:

I can see your mom too. Her mom's great. I get that. What are you doing there? What is going on?

Speaker 4:

She already got goggles on in there y'all she talking to herself. She finally broke.

Speaker 1:

You should have said hey, stop right now and say yes, lord, yes, lord.

Speaker 4:

Get in here, mom. You can't hear Jesus, but it's a book about her sayings. And so the title right now is Holy Ghost Mama. That's a working title, but it's about all the things that she says that are so profound and I just want people to hear them, right? And so I was going, it was going through an editor, and the editor said back to me well, you know what's the lesson? How, at the end, can we tie this all together?

Speaker 4:

Well, that's a Christian thing Like a Christian thing is like a Sunday school thing where you have to be like and so therefore, you know to always remember like that kind of thing.

Speaker 4:

Whereas for me. I don't want to do that Like I want to be like Jesus was where the Prodigal Son story ends open-ended. We don't know what happened at that party, we don't know if the older son came in. We don't know anything Right, we just know the story that he gave us and he was OK with you wrestling at the end. So I think that I struggle more on the Christian side. Well, like the book I said I wanted to write and no Christian publisher wanted to do it Right. So I think what, what, what? When I say Christian, I'm talking about the industry.

Speaker 6:

If.

Speaker 4:

I may Right. So the what the industry expects from you, what the product expects you to produce, is not always what I am producing, which is why I find myself producing my own stuff, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So yes, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, that was a good question.

Speaker 3:

To your point. I mean, that's what the Pharisees thought about Jesus too. They didn't like what he was saying, you know so it makes sense, you're not.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I mean you have a culture, christian Christian you know industry has a culture and has a way of speaking. And I had an agent tell me you are way too secular for Christian and to Christian for secular and I think that's actually a really great place for me to be.

Speaker 1:

It's a great place to be.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I love that yeah.

Speaker 3:

You're not the first author that I've heard say that either. An author that I love, Sean Aniquist, has said the same thing yeah. And so it's. You're never going to please anyone. You just have to use your voice the way God's given it to you, and you know so many beautiful things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good, yep, I love that you know that leads a good question that I have for you how do you incorporate feedback into the creative process?

Speaker 4:

I try to divorce myself of emotion so I don't feel like you know. Oh, they're hurting my feelings. I try to take that out of it and try to find the actual, the actual nugget of truth in it. And that's not always easy, but I'm better for it. I surround myself with people who will, who are really wonderful creatives, who are smarter and more creative than I am and who will tell me the truth.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. I love that. That's great. That's great.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, the more you, the more you create and do things, the less people tell you the truth actually. So it's very important to surround yourself with people. That makes sense.

Speaker 6:

That's good.

Speaker 3:

As a follow up for that. Are there ever times, though, where even the people close to you maybe don't get exactly what you're going for, and you know that that's just what you have to do, and just go ahead and do it?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, absolutely yeah. I have a short series podcast called snacks and good company and I wanted that name because that's the feeling I wanted when we talked about things that it felt like you were with your friends eating snacks and it was just good company and everybody hated it. Every single person was like that is the dumbest name I have, like they just hated it. And then when it all came together and they could hear the jingle, they could hear the music, they saw the logo, then it was like, oh yeah, now everybody's like, oh, snacks are good company, snacks are good company.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but no, nobody was on board with that.

Speaker 4:

They all hated it, but I knew that that was the tone I wanted, so I stuck with it.

Speaker 1:

All right. So what we're going to do now is we're going to go ahead and get ready to wrap up afterwards. Again, when you hear the outro music, everybody jump up on stage. Make sure you kind of give give Sherry some space, because she doesn't, she might not know how to move. Yeah, so, while I try to position the camera, you told me to smile, yeah, smile. You pushed your thumb up, there you go. So she just had a smile for the camera.

Speaker 4:

Okay, got it.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, so you know, Sherry, I really do appreciate you braving this out and coming here to see what this is about. Out of everything we talked about today, what would be your takeaway you would hope people would walk away with today?

Speaker 4:

I think that how much creativity is a part of who God is. I really do believe that. I think storytelling, which this is a part of that. You know, the door, what's it? That's a part of it, like just giving people something in their mind that expands them to kingdom possibilities. That's what I believe in story, and so I do that. However you do that, whether you're someone who is an artist and you draw, you paint, you write, you create these worlds, whatever you do, I would say to think about how can I make people think of a kingdom possibility?

Speaker 4:

Do I do. You know if you're a believer. If you're not, you know I get it. But for me, as a person of faith and who believes in Jesus and we've talked about the gospel how many different ways can I tell people how much he loves them? How many different ways can I show them how deep that was, how, what that love? Think about it. We talked about it on the radio, like music. Why does music affect us so much? Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4:

If we weren't created, that's really weird, that music that you could hear a chord change and get goosebumps right. That is something God gave to us because he loves us, right, and a way to communicate. So I think, thinking about all of those things, I don't know that the church is all. We've always kind of given little lanes where you can create, but this in and of itself shows that God, the vastness of God, whatever God puts in your heart to make, make it, and make it not for a billion people to see it.

Speaker 4:

Make it because it opens a mind to a kingdom possibility. And if it opens just one mind, two minds, three minds, whatever it is, thank him for it and make the thing. Just make the thing.

Speaker 2:

Just make it stop thinking about it.

Speaker 4:

Stop talking about it. Stop Make the thing, just make it.

Speaker 1:

So I love that. I love that. Sherry, how can people connect with you outside of here, in real life, like on social media?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, everywhere I am at, I am Sherry Lynn, so I am Sherry's S-H-E-R-R-I-L-Y-N-N, and so that can be my website. That's all my social media handles. That's how you find me.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, yeah, and you guys can check out the Killer B Studios Instagram. We'll have a link on there and if you're listening to the podcast, you can check out the podcast notes. You'll find a link in there to imserrylncom.

Speaker 2:

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