Guest Introduction: Nik Curtis Beal

Speaker 1 0:00

But welcome to today's podcast replay from the Killer B Studios. Let's go ahead and dive on in. All right, so we're going to be talking about transformations. Yeah, now I'm going to ask everybody here, by throwing some confetti, how many of you here would say that your life has changed a lot since you were younger? Anybody, anybody with some confetti? Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, okay. Everybody, see everybody's hands. You're a band kind. You should definitely look it up. She's probably going to talk about that. She's been in the radio industry for I don't know how long, but she's got a really cool story, so I'm not going to try to tell it to you all. I want her to tell it. So, arcane, can you go ahead and cue that guest intro and let's welcome out with some confetti. Dick, come on out, let's see if she can make it. Yeah, there she is.

Speaker 2 0:49

Oh, she like ran into me out here, she made it.

Speaker 1 0:51

Oh, here I am, she made it, she made it, she did a good job, good job.

Speaker 2 1:01

Like a pro.

Speaker 1 1:02

So you guys have to understand, like her meta age, as you can see, she's kind of like wobbing out here. She's not been drinking at the pub and at the British pub before she came, she's just still getting used to her control. That's all that's going on, right? I was watching where she was at in the world. It tells me where she's hopping around, so I'm going to give her a little space, because she's going to be like oh, I'm going to be here, there we go, I'm going to stand right here. So that way I give her a little bit of space, exactly.

Speaker 3 1:28

Exactly.

Speaker 1 1:29

All right, well, thanks for joining us, nick. Thank you for joining us. Thank you.

Speaker 3 1:33

Thank you so much for having me. I have been enjoying all this beautiful horizon world. It's been so fun to be here.

Speaker 1 1:42

Well, we can't wait, like fun's just beginning, because this is what it's all about. You know, you get it. You're going to get to experience. This is her real first, like real time experience in the metaverse, doing a show and everything like that. That's where, like, this is going to be great, because she's going to get to know what horizons the community is all about as you guys get to hear her story and her. You got legs. You don't even you don't really know what much it's like by legs. So that's that's pretty cool, all right. So, nick, a lot of people here they might not know who you are, so can you take about? Let's take about 30 seconds and just tell us a little bit about who Nick is, who is.

Speaker 3 2:17

Nick. Wow, that is a loaded question. I'm so glad you guys are all here. It's been so fun to just kind of meet a couple of you guys out in the the grass area and by the fire pit. And who am I? I am a person that's been in radio and records for 30 years and that encompasses a lot of different jobs. And it's been it's been a lot of tour bus lifestyle, a lot of listening to music and a lot of telling people about it, so I'm glad to be here tonight.

Speaker 1 2:52

Awesome. We're super glad to hear what are some of the things you've you've done in radio.

Speaker 3 2:57

Well, I was the music director, and what it means to do to be a music director is you're listening to songs. You're listening to music in the context of brand new music and older music and how, when you're listening to the radio is not just all brand new songs, you know, and so it gives you an experience. And so, as a music director, I did that. I also did a lot of audio editing, which I love. I love editing so much. It's one of my favorite things and then, just, you know, talking to the artists and helping them get their music heard Awesome.

Speaker 1 3:35

Yes, I love that, I love it. Well, when I when I talk to you too about coming out, I was like, yeah, I want you to come experience because you know, again, nick has got some artists that's lined up that's going to be coming out here pretty soon too. I know we're talking about even maybe like a Christmas concert that's going to happen here, which is going to be really cool. We were waiting to see, waiting to see. So I thought it was great for her first off to come experience this, because then it helps her to be able to share with the artists and stuff that you're talking, to help explain what's that, what this is actually like, because until you put the headset on, you really don't know. Right, you don't know. No, it's an eye opener, not at all.

Speaker 3 4:12

Not at all, and I know you guys are total pros at this.

Speaker 1 4:16

Yeah, we're you know. Yeah, Mrs Killer B's, you're doing really good.

Speaker 2 4:20

Oh, thanks, mr Killer B and Arcane and a lot of other people here are pros, but I'm still learning Like I run into walls and stuff like that all the time.

From Rural Roots to Radio

Speaker 1 4:28

So when I, when I asked her also to come out, I told her I was like you know, what I love about the studio is this is a place for us to come together, connect to people and share real life experiences, like what's something that is you're passionate about, that has been an important thing in your life that you would like to share, is it? You know, the challenge or struggle? And when we were talking, she said I would like to come talk about life transformations. I'm like that sounds cool, because she said she's had a lot, and so I'm like this would be great to have you come and share with us. So I kind of wanted to paint this, like paint the scene a little bit, so you guys knew where she was at. Right now we're going to get back to that, but okay, so let's, let's rewind a little bit here. Nick, maybe you can take us back to a time before you got into radio. What was life like in rewind?

Speaker 3 5:16

Yeah, really, really rewind. I don't know about it. Wow, I mean, music was important to me in growing up in Montana. Anybody have any experience with Montana out there, throw me some confetti.

Speaker 1 5:35

Ah, good soldier, Good soldier, yeah awesome.

Speaker 2 5:39

Not me not yet, but I will Not yet it's on the bucket list.

Speaker 1 5:45

Now, yeah, it's on the bucket list.

Speaker 3 5:49

So just growing up in an atmosphere very rural where farmers and ranchers would come together and play music, and it was interesting because you'd hear them, you know, maybe in the context of church on Sunday or just hanging out at the granaries or something like that, but hearing them actually play music is what changed my perception about what people could do with music, and so that's going way, way back. So I knew that I wanted to be involved in that and so I started making radio shows. I started doing countdown shows when I was a little girl and also had my younger brother come in and he would do commercials.

Speaker 3 6:33

He would make commercials with me, and so it was really, really special to feel like you could do something.

Speaker 1 6:42

What did you do in Montana?

Speaker 3 6:46

Yes, I was a sheep herder in real life. Real life sheep herder Wow.

Speaker 1 6:51

Do you have any other sheep herders here in the audience, any other?

Speaker 3 6:53

sheep herders. Yes, well, mrs Killer B just asked me at what age I started, and probably around eight, and I just continued to herd sheep and we spent a lot of time, a lot of nights, where I just slept in the barn with the sheep and it was really a beautiful experience, you know.

Speaker 1 7:15

How many sheep did you have? How many Well?

Speaker 3 7:18

yeah, we at one point had hundreds, but my mother worked on a ranch. They had 10,000. Wow, that's a lot of sheep.

Speaker 1 7:28

That had to smell lovely.

Speaker 2 7:30

Yeah, I have to imagine that that experience had to give you so much insight into the Bible and all of the different talk about, you know, leading the flock and you know David, you know, was out with the sheep and it had to give you just such a, you know, clear picture of what they're trying to tell us. You know, and if you've never had any experience like that which now at this point, I've had some experience with goats, but before all that you know there's so much that you just can't know about what it's like to be a shepherd, unless you've done it or known somebody who did that right.

Speaker 3 8:29

It's absolutely true and Mrs Killer Bee's right, you know. I mean there's a lot of stuff in the Psalms and in the Bible and really First and Second Samuel is some of my favorite parts. David I just think he's a fantastic individual in the Bible that I really look up to for a lot of different reasons, but I resonate with him as a shepherd and as a very young boy as a shepherd, and so it was. And of course, music you have a lot of time that you're out there with sheep and you just you're singing, you reflect on music and you sing to the sheep and it becomes Sing to the sheep.

Speaker 1 9:09

It helps Like. Does it help with the sheep? Of course, yes, soothe them.

Speaker 3 9:13

Yeah, they hear the voice of the shepherd. And so it's pretty special.

Speaker 1 9:19

If you're Okay, I do got to ask this question Is female shepherds called shepherds or are they called something different?

Speaker 3 9:25

I don't really know Shepherdess, shepherdess, shepherdess, shepherdess, shepherdess.

Speaker 2 9:31

Okay, not you, not with a T, darling, though You're saying a T at the end.

Speaker 1 9:34

Oh shepherd Shepherdess.

Speaker 2 9:36

Shepherdess.

Speaker 3 9:37

Like S.

Speaker 2 9:38

Shepherdess, shepherdess, okay.

Speaker 1 9:41

There you go, yes, okay, so here you are, so I'm trying to piece this story together. So you're young. You said it started like when you're eight and you were singing to the sheep too. Is that where you're? You started realizing you had like a love for like music and radio, like, how did that come about into your story?

Speaker 3 10:00

Yeah, I, From about that same time I started studying Japanese Suzuki piano oh wow. And I actually had a sheep that you know would sort of lead the flock and so I would walk with that sheep. But I ended up I had a cow as well.

Speaker 1 10:22

We had a lot of different things. Speaking of Mrs Killer Bee's language right now. Just what's a fat cow? Oh gosh, we had sort of an old.

Speaker 3 10:32

McDonald's farm situation. I traded the cow for a piano which I still have to this day. It's a 1924 Fisher of Bright Piano.

Speaker 1 10:45

I thought you were talking about the cow. Like you still got the cow today. Okay, the piano. You still have the piano, okay.

Speaker 2 10:50

Yes, all right, that makes more sense. I was like, wow, thank you for that. That's amazing and it was made in New.

Speaker 3 10:54

York, yes. Oh, so very very special to me, but I played that in studying Suzuki piano, which is a Jeff Japanese method of listening to music and then emulating what you hear. And just the more and more you listen to it, the more and more it becomes part of the fabric of your thinking and you're able to you're able to play that Is that like playing.

Speaker 1 11:20

Okay, so I play bass guitar or I play bass guitar, acoustic and all that stuff, but I can't read a lick of music, I play by ear. So is that kind of like? Is that kind of like, say, women, because? So tell me what was called again, because that sounded really fancy instead of saying I play by ear.

Speaker 3 11:37

It's named after whoops. Sorry, I need to close out of this.

Speaker 1 11:41

Oh, you're coined out, yeah, so just hit your right button.

Speaker 3 11:44

There you go.

Speaker 1 11:44

There you go.

Speaker 3 11:45

Okay so.

Speaker 1 11:45

Japanese Suzuki.

Speaker 3 11:48

Yes, and that's the name of the, the man that kind of came up with that.

Speaker 1 11:53

Yeah, yeah, so instead of that, play by ear.

Speaker 2 11:57

You can say I listened to the music until it becomes a fabric in the fabric of my thinking.

Speaker 1 12:02

Yeah, I'm not gonna remember that at all. I'm not gonna remember. I'll just say, I play by ear. I'm gonna totally tear that up, okay, so that's, that's really cool. Do you still play that piano today then too, or is it more of like?

Speaker 3 12:19

I do have it. I don't play it very much. Yeah, I should I really should but I don't, but, but that is. That is about the same time, and and I began to study music and listen to it and and, and and do different things with it, and obviously you know that played into my career later in radio, and these two things together I didn't realize, but that led me to a job at a record company. Even so, it's just so strange that. Very beginning can be this life transformation that you never would have thought.

Speaker 3 12:56

Was anything that could be something that would be in your life is the rest of your family musical my no.

Speaker 2 13:14

I would definitely say your musical, definitely.

Speaker 3 13:19

My stepfather. He is a composer and we have always had a Grand concert, grand piano in our house that he plays constantly. Oh, wow, continues to compose music today. He has for my entire life, yeah that's amazing.

Radio Volunteering and Life Transformations

Speaker 1 13:34

Is there anybody here in the audience? Was confetti that, let us know. Like, do you guys? Does anybody in here play a musical instrument? Let us know. By throwing some confetti. Oh, we see, nerf. Yeah, I'm here. Dinner, oh, hey, dinner, I think. Is that DJ? No, that's somebody, I don't know who. The other person up, everybody saw a hand raised. I just can't see their name badge. Wow, that's awesome. Anybody on this side?

Speaker 2 13:53

DJ Jack.

Speaker 1 13:54

DJ Jack Okay, awesome, wow, that's cool. Hey, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 2 13:58

Hitch bow, it's I could barely turn on the radio, so I Okay, so.

Speaker 1 14:06

So you play music and stuff. So what was like your first entrance into like radio? Where does that start?

Speaker 3 14:15

I actually went to College in Southern California for broadcasting and I knew that I wanted to do that. You know, I even from what making those radio shows in my, you know, in my, in my room. I knew that that's what I wanted to do, and so I went to school for it and then ended up getting a job in Maine, which was really, really fun thing and.

Speaker 3 14:37

Volunteered at that radio station that had just started. It was a Christian radio station and they were looking for people to come along and help, and then, in a very short period of time, they invited me to be part of the morning show and it was called the blonde and what's his name, which was super fun, and so he had such a good dynamic. Yeah, it was really really fun. I loved it.

Speaker 1 14:59

It's cool. I love that name.

Speaker 3 15:01

Yeah, yeah, it gave me this. Then I was like an excitement to what I had studied, so I wanted to do more of it.

Speaker 1 15:11

Oh, I love it, I love it.

Speaker 2 15:12

How old were you when you got that first job in radio? 19, wow so like. By the time you were 19, you had already been Living in Montana, went to school in California and then moved to Maine.

Speaker 3 15:27

Yeah, and in between those times I had also lived in Mexico for a little bit and in Yokohama, japan, which was really, really fun, because going back to the country that actually Was connected to the music and how I studied and how I learned music was really Satisfying that's fascinating, that is cool.

Speaker 1 15:52

That is cool. My son wants to go to or came. He wants to go to japan.

Speaker 2 15:56

He wants to go to japan. Well, I want to go with him. By the way, bucket list it's.

Speaker 1 16:01

Yeah, I guess that her bucket list is like you ever seen, like those big water towers, like that's like, really, it's like, that's like. That's like a quarter of her bucket list. Is anybody in here everybody, anybody in here been to japan before? Anybody? Oh, uh, uh, it's like. It's like skylar, skylar, awesome, wow, that's amazing. That's cool. So what about your big break in radio? Like, was there a moment that you would say this is your, this was my big break, that it, and how did it play a role in the transformation of your life?

Speaker 3 16:34

That's a great question, and and If I would have said no, I can't imagine where my life would have gone. But, I was on the radio one afternoon playing music and I got a phone call and usually the phone call rings for requests, right, song requests. But this time it was somebody from a record company, a marketing Manager, and he said to me Would you be interested in coming on and working for a band that is trying to re-identify their music and their who they are as a band?

Speaker 1 17:17

Really.

Life Transformations: DC Talk

Speaker 3 17:18

I was like I don't know, I don't know how to do it, I'm probably going to be on the radio side and they said we want you to work radio. It's fine if you're on the radio side, but we need somebody from radio to come alongside us for this. I said I'll give it a go. Yes, and because of that decision I ended up working with so many incredible people in my industry and really was able to use that Suzuki piano listening to music and being able to work on radio singles before they were sent out and connecting radio people together on a song and really lifting up the art that bands were making.

Speaker 1 18:10

Isn't it cool how I don't know if you guys and maybe you guys let me know if confetti, if you guys have noticed this but you're just sharing that? Isn't it crazy? Like you go through times in your life and we're talking about life transformations and sometimes we're in different seasons and we're wondering why, why am I going through this right now, like why am I here and you're talking about now like OK, I don't know. I don't know if you can share, like who this was that you helped out on tour and stuff with. But as you started going down this path, you're saying you know, well, I'm like kind of like the radio, so I've never really done that, but then you, you got that opportunity to go there and you're using all the skills that you were doing and learning beforehand, before you even got into radio. Isn't it beautiful how it all pieces together? But were there moments that you were thinking I don't know why I'm doing this or where this is going to go?

Speaker 3 18:58

Yeah, it really really was like that it was. And yeah, it has anybody. This is going to go back a long ways, but I'll ask is has anybody here ever heard of the band DC talk? Oh, yeah, dc talk.

Speaker 1 19:13

Yeah.

Speaker 3 19:14

Yeah.

Speaker 1 19:14

Yeah, ok, now they're not together anymore, but who are some of the members of DC talk that they might know today?

Speaker 3 19:23

OK, well, you probably know Michael Tate from.

Speaker 1 19:27

Yeah, michael Tate, yeah, michael Tate yeah.

Speaker 3 19:31

And then you probably know Toby Mac, right yeah.

Speaker 1 19:34

Toby yeah, you know. Toby Mac yeah, Also also.

Speaker 3 19:39

So Toby Mac really was the the one who had a vision for the band DC talk and had goals that he was going to do, and it was writing music and putting music together. And so he and I encountered each other in this space where they were reinventing themselves. I was coming into a transformation in my personal life and going from radio to working with radio on music, and and so Toby and I spent a lot of time really working together to make songs that would have, uh, radio airplay that would make a difference in people's lives, right Wow that's amazing Music making a difference.

Speaker 1 20:25

Yes, that is amazing.

Speaker 2 20:28

Yeah, I think that's really amazing to hear and like. Toby's songs, even to this day are so powerful, and it's amazing that, like you got to partner with him in that, like you know, his songs are really um, I mean, life changing. They really are.

Speaker 1 20:45

Yeah.

Speaker 2 20:46

Powerful and deep and raw, you know, and so that's that's really amazing. I didn't know that's where this story was going to go, see, I only knew part of it and I didn't realize that DC talk was um was where that started. So that's awesome.

Speaker 3 21:02

Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah. And they hadn't been a band very long before I came alongside what they were doing and, um, some of my absolute favorite memories are, um sitting in a rehearsal hall, seeing DC talk on the stage and having them sing and rehearse and, of course, kevin Max is such an amazing vocalist and they would just continue to repeat these phrases until they got them right and what it turned into was like a beautiful worship experience. Um, and so they, they wouldn't necessarily, they would never be called a worship band Sure.

Speaker 1 21:40

Right.

Speaker 3 21:41

However, um I have been in many sessions where worship has definitely happened.

Speaker 1 21:47

Wow, that's cool, it's very it's cool, that's awesome, that's awesome. All right, I think that we probably have the audience, probably have some questions. You're doing awesome over there, arcane. Thanks for snapping some photos, don't forget. You guys snap your killer selfies and post them, so you have some chances to win some of those gift cards. Arcane, let's go ahead and bring up the Q and a mic. Let's give some time here for the audience. Did you guys have thoughts or questions? One person at a time can come in the can come in the mic area. Just come on down.

Speaker 2 22:13

How you had mentioned like the farmers would like sing and play their instruments in Montana. What type of music were they typically singing?

Speaker 3 22:20

like folk or yeah, that's a great question. Um, most of the time they were just singing country and uh, just, you know country music, old country music. Um, what is it then?

Speaker 2 22:34

that led you to more of the Christian side of the radio industry.

Speaker 3 22:38

Um I? Great question. I? Um, we grew up as a family that always went to church, you know, um, and I and I just um, you know prayed a lot. I uh lost my father when I was four years old, and so I had come to a place where I was uh desperately alone and in need of answers, um which, of course, my grieving mother could not have answered for me. And in in some beautiful way and it was actually through uh bus ministry in Seattle that would come by, pick me up on the bus and take me to church, and um and I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior because I knew I didn't want to be living life without him.

Speaker 2 23:32

Wow.

Speaker 1 23:33

Wow.

Speaker 2 23:34

Nick that was my first um experience with Jesus, too, is from a bus ministry. Yeah, my mom would send me off on the bus to church and I, you know, go happily. I loved it and yeah, so that's that's amazing yes praise God.

Speaker 1 23:48

What happened to your dad? You said you lost him. Oh, it's an easy.

Speaker 3 23:51

It's an easy answer he um. He was killed in a motorcycle wreck.

Speaker 2 23:57

Oh really, he wrecked his motorcycle. Oh, my goodness yeah.

Speaker 3 24:00

He uh, he had made a decision to um not only ride his motorcycle um after a fight, but after he had drank too many drinks and uh. It led to the end of his life and he was 26 when he died.

Speaker 1 24:17

Wow, oh my God, and this is encouraging that people hear too, hearing the, the transformation story, because that's the beautiful thing about Our lives right now, if you're here, your life, your story still being written, so that transformation is still happening even right now. Even right now, that transformation is happening and it's beautiful how God can use all the pieces, the difficult seasons, the, the seasons that are going great, the experiences that maybe you don't like and you're like I don't know why I gotta go through this. He can use all those to paint something beautiful that we don't even know it's coming. Yeah, so let's fast-forward to today, like we're you today now.

Speaker 3 24:58

Oh, yes, yeah, well about, let's see. About a year and a half ago, Maybe a little bit more than that, I was on the radio and it was right after COVID and all that, and I had heard that the hits deep tour. Has anybody ever heard of hits deep to?

Speaker 1 25:20

Yeah, dear our girl.

Speaker 3 25:22

Yeah, it's hits deep, yeah, and that's so. You'll know that that's a tour headed by Toby Mack, and so he. They had pulled back into Nashville, tennessee, after going out on tour, like they did before COVID-19, and no one got ill, no one got sick, everyone was healthy. And I was live on the radio and I had my mic open and I said I feel like that tour coming back is one small step for mankind and I just stopped on the air and I just was like what?

Speaker 3 26:00

I Think this is something, yeah, and and so from there I Could, I found out that that nobody really had one small step for mankind, and of course it's a play on, you know, man landing on the moon in 1969, and Even our logo reflects that boot print. And I often will ask the bands that I interview what, what do you want your musical footprint to be?

Speaker 3 26:29

on this earth, you know. And so over the last year and a half we've been gathering artist interviews and and just time together with artists and helping them Spread the word about the good things, about the kind things they're doing in the world and really trying to champion what they're doing.

Speaker 1 26:50

I love it.

Speaker 2 26:51

Yeah, and there's really really powerful stories like I encourage all of you to go and look up these interviews, their video interviews, and Nick, your joy and your, you know beautiful personality and your fun Just shine through in those interviews. And okay, I'm gonna give you a test. Okay, you don't know very much about me, but as I was scrolling through the videos I was like, oh, I love that artist, I love that artist, I love that artist. But there was one that made my heart skip a beat. Can you guess who it was?

Speaker 3 27:23

Hmm, mr Killer B, this is a really tough question. Okay, I'm gonna go with Jeremy camp.

Speaker 2 27:31

Oh no, I did not see Jeremy camp. I Do like Jeremy camp.

Speaker 1 27:36

He was one of my first like sorry, jeremy, he's not coming to killer B studios now.

Speaker 2 27:41

Thanks, Well, that's okay because if we can get Matt Mar what a first interview to listen to you guys because I'm listening to this interview he's always very eloquent when he speaks. He's very deep thinker, you know, has just an incredible perspective, and then he tells the story that I'm not gonna tell you. Nick started crying in the interview. I was sobbing. I was like Interview is unbelievably good, like you do a really good job with them and ask really thoughtful Questions and like really kind of get to the heart of the matter and what they're trying to do with their art. Just really good job. It was so beautiful.

Speaker 3 28:26

Oh, mrs Killer B, that's so sweet. I loved that interview and I Specifically loved that interview with Matt Mar because I had walked in the place where he had recorded in those ruins and it was, it was beautiful, beautiful to be there. Very special interview, thank you, it's on your bucket list right.

Speaker 2 28:50

That went on my bucket list you.

Speaker 1 28:55

Know you guys, they can. They can check out those interviews by going to ban kind comm right.

Speaker 3 29:00

Yes, ban kind comm. Yes, yes. And if you just look up ban kind on any platform, you're probably gonna run into us on On Instagram or Facebook or Spotify or Pandora or wherever you wherever you listen to podcasts or watch them or Connect.

Speaker 1 29:18

Yeah, and we'll put a link. If you're listening to the show notes, if you listen to the podcast replay, we'll put a link in the show notes for you too. So just check it out and you guys can check out Van kind as well. Yeah, I love, I love, I love like when I was at the radio station Star, one of the things that I loved was I got to do the interviews with the artists and I loved it, because One of the things I loved not going straight to the song, but asking them to share, like what's going on in their life right now, because, man, they, they've got a lot of stuff to share and it's good, impactful, just Life-changing stories if we give them the time, they want to share it too. I love that. So I'm gonna have to go listen to some More of them too. So I love it, that's.

Speaker 1 29:59

I love your logo. I love your logo. It's a great logo, great logo.

Speaker 2 30:05

The intro to the videos with the you know astronaut. All that I love it.

Speaker 3 30:09

Yes, and how it transitions into the artist yeah yes, thank you guys are gonna check it out.

Speaker 1 30:15

Bangkinecom, make sure you check it out.

Power of Transformation in Life

Speaker 3 30:17

What's so special about the artists and how they have music on their heart that they're creating. And then that takes us back to David and him shepherding and how he was creating music that then became such a huge part, important part of the Bible and. To listen to those songs, to hear read those lyrics that he wrote so.

Speaker 1 30:39

I love it. We like to ask our guests to share at the end. If there was one thing that you would hope people would walk away with today, what would it be?

Speaker 3 30:49

Oh gosh, that is a great question. You know what I'm gonna echo what mr Killer B said, and that was that every life in here is in the middle of a transformation and as you continue to live your life, you will see those things connect that you have, that you've gone through in your life, and they will be for something even better.

Speaker 1 31:18

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Speaker 2 31:22

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Speaker 3 31:24

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